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AOE Gen in General
Nerf AOE Damage 4 (16%)
Buff the Drain on the Jutsu 5 (20%)
Decrease the Range at which it hits 16 (64%)
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AOE Gen in General
Topic Started: Jan 12 2014, 09:21 PM (1,031 Views)
Chet
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I think the Range on AOE gen should be nerfed so that it cant offscreen hit...it should only be able to hit people on your screen when it is capped...this Test Server someone has been able to gen the entire Leaf Village and Aoe Gen is bugged where when you get koed by it and the user doesn't release it you're still in the gen until they decide to or unless you DA....and being how it requires alot of Con to utilize AOE gen they can hold it for very long periods of time...
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Decrease range. This is ridiculous, lmao.
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xxxxyobdab
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Theres factors.

Yes there should be a range limit.

No it shouldnt be only onscreen. Let it be able to work offscreen, id say 5 tiles offscreen.

The damage is fine.

The drain is the important factor. Now i was a pure con kyomou, max age(40) and id say i could hold it for a minute. Sleep gen is different its a chakra whore.

Also i feel AOE gens should work like chikatsu: The drain is effected by how many people are in the aoe/effected.

However...idk who we're talking bout. Im pretty sure a suikazan/hardworker/soundmind/pure con would be INSANE.
But considering the factors of:
-my character coulda probably ko'd someone 1-2 times before needing to recharge. If soundmind is super effective id say double it for them so 2-4.
-the gen user is stuck in place and losing chakra.
-AOE gen doesnt struggle, run/walk away and hide.(cept blind...but thats weak i believe...)
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Adamant+ the infinite Z macro gives you infinite chakra for that type of stuff.
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Jan 12 2014, 11:05 PM
Adamant+ the infinite Z macro gives you infinite chakra for that type of stuff.
That shouldnt be possible.

Even so the gen user would be wasting their wp. If you dont get struggled thats 30 seconds of the gen doing nothing but hurting the gen user. Also theres still the fact of stamina rates. They still need to ko you etc. which takes time and chakra. In terms of my ocean gen it did 100-300 damage. On someone with 4k stm itd be about 20 seconds. I believe oven is superweak. So really only ocean is the damager.

If anything what happened was more annoying than it was fatal. If the gen user had allies they would be effected too.
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Jan 12 2014, 11:05 PM
Adamant+ the infinite Z macro gives you infinite chakra for that type of stuff.
You forgot to mention that using adamant to give you extra chakra drains your wp
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Genjutsu knowledge increases AoE gen range doesn't it? I have a feeling this has something to do with someone spamming scrolls for a pretty much impossible to gain legitly amount of knowledge so to do this if the genjutsu hit the entire village like you said...

But yeah, just cap the AoE range at the users maximum viewing range.

I don't know much about the damage and shit on AoE gens so I can't really say much on that part :\
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Jan 13 2014, 12:30 AM
Genjutsu knowledge increases AoE gen range doesn't it? I have a feeling this has something to do with someone spamming scrolls for a pretty much impossible to gain legitly amount of knowledge so to do this if the genjutsu hit the entire village like you said...

But yeah, just cap the AoE range at the users maximum viewing range.

I don't know much about the damage and shit on AoE gens so I can't really say much on that part :\
Aoe gens are horrible compared to single target gens. Will leave it at that.
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I'll say just change the range so that it's maybe 1 or 2 tiles more than the user's viewing area.

Also, am I the only one that can't ever Genkai AoE gens? I see the X pop up, and spam the hell out of it, but it always just says something like "This genjutsu is too strong. You can't break it."

Is more Con needed or more Gen Knowledge?
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Buff AOE Gens. Even Fuuma can't make them decent.

Range should be limited though.
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Jan 13 2014, 01:20 AM

Also, am I the only one that can't ever Genkai AoE gens? I see the X pop up, and spam the hell out of it, but it always just says something like "This genjutsu is too strong. You can't break it."

Is more Con needed or more Gen Knowledge?
Its kai'able.

Visually with a doujutsu it removes the tiles and from what i saw up to a 5x5 aoe around the cancel'er.
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idk this poll needs and option that says remove AoE gen...

There is honestly like... no way to balance this crap. It's either going to be too weak, or way too OP. Or too strong, but too small of a field...

#Remove AoE Gens2014
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Sakana
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It's really not that hard to balance them.....

Cap the size limit at the user's viewing range, give it decent damage/status effects just like targeting gens, and increase the drain on the user based on how many people are in the field. Hitting the user would turn off the genjutsu, just like a normal gen.

Common now Xeyl.... you didn't even try :\
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Yeah Sakana hit it spot on should work like chiktasu where the more people in the range of the gen the higher the Chakra Drain
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